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The US Election and Sundry Politics Thread
September 18th 2008, 01:50 CEST by Jamie

We're getting into the thick of the election season. This will keep it all in once place. Even all you foreigners are welcome to come in.
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#23 by Tom Chick
2008-09-18 14:02:16
suck my nuts u twats
#24 by m0nty
2008-09-18 14:03:30
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Goodness gracious, Tom Chick sure does have a potty mouth these days.
#25 by Matt Perkins
2008-09-18 17:22:55
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
It's cute and all to try to get Palin in trouble over this, but isn't it just a wee bit hypocritical to attempt to prosecute her when we let the president and his ilk do exactly what people want her to get into trouble for? I don't remember them going to trial...

"some of those words want to be other words." - LP
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum
#26 by jjohnsen
2008-09-18 17:55:23
http://www.johnsenclan.com
I really dislike Palin.

#27 by Matt Perkins
2008-09-18 18:51:01
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Anyone who has half a brain does.

"some of those words want to be other words." - LP
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum
#28 by Jibble
2008-09-18 18:54:28
Odd that it took a total financial meltdown for these retards to finally realize that letting giant corporations do whatever the hell they want to all the time might not work out very well, especially when it comes to leveraging things against imaginary money.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

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#29 by mgns
2008-09-18 18:59:00
Also the whole "Government should not interfere with the private sector! Oh, look at that. The market just went kaput. Mommy, come bail us out?!"

A fist bump? A pound? A terrorist fist jab?
#30 by jjohnsen
2008-09-18 19:04:38
http://www.johnsenclan.com
I guess it's only bad if the government gets involved in healthcare, not stupid financial companies.

#31 by Dethstryk
2008-09-18 19:38:57
jemartin@tcainternet.com
Obama should be elected just to get us a step closer to fucking UHC.

Why people think that companies who care about their bottom line should be providing health care blows my goddamn mind.

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#32 by Matt Perkins
2008-09-18 19:48:44
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Dethstryk (#31):
Why people think that companies who care about their bottom line should be providing health care blows my goddamn mind.

Because a fair number of people are convinced that not only do we live in a free market, but that the market will balance it self. Why do they think that? Because the people who own the politicians tell them to say that...

"some of those words want to be other words." - LP
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum
#33 by FoRmaT
2008-09-18 19:53:03
In Spain & Germany, everybody gets healthcare.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#34 by Ergo
2008-09-18 20:28:38
We know.

Invention is the Green Goblin of Necessary Lemonade.

--Flowers
#35 by G-Man
2008-09-18 20:34:58
And that's the same Spain and Germany you can't find a job in, right?
#36 by LPMiller
2008-09-18 20:41:14
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
Matt Perkins
It's cute and all to try to get Palin in trouble over this, but isn't it just a wee bit hypocritical to attempt to prosecute her when we let the president and his ilk do exactly what people want her to get into trouble for? I don't remember them going to trial...



Because the people going after Palin, including some members of her own party, are state reps and having nothing to do with the national government? It's only hypocritical if it's the same people.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" - "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."

"LP, your big balls are a religion." - Jibble
#37 by Shadarr
2008-09-18 20:42:58
shadarr@gmail.com http://digital-luddite.com
Because a fair number of people are convinced that not only do we live in a free market, but that the market will balance it self.

Well, the market will balance itself.  All those companies that took on too much risk would go bankrupt, all those houses people couldn't afford would be foreclosed, all those pension funds that invested in CDOs or companies that were exposed to CDOs would get wiped out.  The market can work out anything and reach a new equilibrium, but that equilibrium might be a new depression.

Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
#38 by Dumdeedum
2008-09-18 20:48:50
http://www.dumdeedum.com
Woohoo, for the first time in weeks I'm all caught up on my 'crapping!  No more little yellow icons mocking me from the archive page.  It does look like I missed some Ng Yo fun though, which is a shame but I'll survive.

Okay, carry on.

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#39 by None-1a
2008-09-18 21:24:27
#25 by Matt Perkins
It's cute and all to try to get Palin in trouble over this, but isn't it just a wee bit hypocritical to attempt to prosecute her when we let the president and his ilk do exactly what people want her to get into trouble for? I don't remember them going to trial...


The difference is that Palin is involved in an ethics investigation and it appears her yahoo emails are relevent to it. The only time I can remember the same happening to the Bush administration was with the AG scandal and they used executive privilege to avoid giving up information so it never got to a point where haveing email archives or not mattered.

Don't forget garnishes such as: Fish shaped solid waste.
#40 by Jibble
2008-09-18 21:46:10
The difference is that Palin is involved in an ethics investigation and it appears her yahoo emails are relevent to it. The only time I can remember the same happening to the Bush administration was with the AG scandal and they used executive privilege to avoid giving up information so it never got to a point where haveing email archives or not mattered.

I believe that's still on the Impotent Democratic Congressional Investigation to-do list with regards to actually enforcing subpoenas instead of just letting these assholes laugh at them. Granted, that'd requre them to invoke their inherent contempt powers, but still...I wish I could just tell the courts to go fuck themselves if I ever get a subpoena.

As for her, she's already invoked executive privilege for those e-mails, but I beleive that was in response to an FOIA request. Not sure if she's invoked it with regards to the current investigation. It doesn't really matter, anyway. She McCain's team has already swarmed all over this thing and it'll be delayed until after the election. Her star's already fading anyway, though, so I don't think she'll do much more than mobilize the base. Going to be a close election no matter what, but it's nice to see McCain's poll bubble collapse and Obama regain the lead.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 190 lbs.  10 to go.
#41 by Jibble
2008-09-18 21:46:11
The difference is that Palin is involved in an ethics investigation and it appears her yahoo emails are relevent to it. The only time I can remember the same happening to the Bush administration was with the AG scandal and they used executive privilege to avoid giving up information so it never got to a point where haveing email archives or not mattered.

I believe that's still on the Impotent Democratic Congressional Investigation to-do list with regards to actually enforcing subpoenas instead of just letting these assholes laugh at them. Granted, that'd requre them to invoke their inherent contempt powers, but still...I wish I could just tell the courts to go fuck themselves if I ever get a subpoena.

As for her, she's already invoked executive privilege for those e-mails, but I beleive that was in response to an FOIA request. Not sure if she's invoked it with regards to the current investigation. It doesn't really matter, anyway. She McCain's team has already swarmed all over this thing and it'll be delayed until after the election. Her star's already fading anyway, though, so I don't think she'll do much more than mobilize the base. Going to be a close election no matter what, but it's nice to see McCain's poll bubble collapse and Obama regain the lead.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 190 lbs.  10 to go.
#42 by Jibble
2008-09-18 21:47:57
The fuck? I only pushed it once.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 190 lbs.  10 to go.
#43 by Matt Perkins
2008-09-18 22:17:33
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Jibble (#42):
The fuck? I only pushed it once.

lies


Yeah, our government, or Rove's, however you want to look at it, used the RNC.org email address (and others) so they didn't have to have everything tracked. And then when asked for it, the entire state that the server lived in burned down. Damn freak accidents.

"some of those words want to be other words." - LP
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum
#44 by bishop
2008-09-18 22:30:11
http://www.darkintel.org/00FF00/
oh my
#45 by gaggle
2008-09-18 22:33:47
What a weird font.

"Braid breaks one of my personal most fundamental rules of games design within minutes of starting - they have timed puzzles."
#46 by Jamie
2008-09-18 22:41:23
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
Oh, Photobucket is blocked here at work. Great. Now the Eye of Sauron (AKA the IT Department) will turn its blazing gaze upon me.

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#47 by Jibble
2008-09-18 22:49:01
Yeah, our government, or Rove's, however you want to look at it, used the RNC.org email address (and others) so they didn't have to have everything tracked.

Presidential Records Act? What's that?

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 190 lbs.  10 to go.
#48 by FoRmaT
2008-09-18 22:55:21
G-Man
And that's the same Spain and Germany you can't find a job in, right?


You know, your snark doesn't really deserve an answer, but let me tell you that I had zero-none-keinen-ningun days of holidays during the five years I worked at my last job, except the 15 days leave the company had to give me by law when I got married. So it's not like I'm too lazy to work or whatever your idea might be. But I got sick of that shit and came here, to see if I could find something nice. Yes, it's proven more difficult than I thought to get a decent job over here, and that will probably be a reason for me to go back to Spain, where I know I WILL get a job in under a month. And to tell you even more, I am not enjoying my time here, I don't enjoy living on welfare, I don't enjoy not being able to buy most stuff I wanted like I used in Spain, I hate the cold weather, and all that shit is really depressing me. As in, I'm taking antidepressants. There, I said it. Happy? Not everybody is a college graduate. I'm happy for you that you achieved more in life than I have, and I have more difficulties on the German employment market than someone like you would have, but that doesn't make it cool to piss on me. I'm not the kind of person you think I am.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#49 by Ergo
2008-09-18 22:58:20
FoRmat, for shame. You have just fed G-Man.

Invention is the Green Goblin of Necessary Lemonade.

--Flowers
#50 by FoRmaT
2008-09-18 23:06:55
I had to get that off my chest.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#51 by Jibble
2008-09-18 23:12:22
Guys, please, don't get the nazi all worked up. You know how they get.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 190 lbs.  10 to go.
#52 by TreeFrog
2008-09-18 23:44:25
For what it's worth, I think G-Man was having a go at Spain and Germany rather than Format.

If you think universal state-supplied healthcare is all that you should try going to hospital in Britain. You're lucky not to come out with MRSA. Private companies = profit motive = competitors taking all your patients if you perform badly. I'm not seeing where the catch is.

Moat.
#53 by gaggle
2008-09-18 23:47:41
I'm lead to believe that s'long as you got the monies the US system is kind of great. More money you got, more greater it becomes. Which, naturally, is the inherent deep-flawed friggin' problem with the whole thing.

"Braid breaks one of my personal most fundamental rules of games design within minutes of starting - they have timed puzzles."
#54 by Shadarr
2008-09-19 00:35:19
shadarr@gmail.com http://digital-luddite.com
I'm lead to believe that s'long as you got the monies the US system is kind of great.

Despite spending the most per capita on healthcare, the US doesn't actually get the best results.  Even discounting the people without insurance, Americans get lower quality of care than a lot of countries.

Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
#55 by BobJustBob
2008-09-19 00:36:12
Didn't you see Sicko? The whole movie is about various people with health insurance who were screwed by the system.

"That's not to say that games shouldn't have stories, I just think the story should be the player's story, and find more ways to celebrate and promote that, rather than the game designer's story that you're imposing upon them." - Will Wright
#56 by mgns
2008-09-19 01:08:09
Private companies = profit motive = competitors taking all your patients if you perform badly.

Health care is unbelievably expensive to provide. There is simply no way for the average working adult to pay for what we have come to believe is a decent standard of care in a private system.

A fist bump? A pound? A terrorist fist jab?
#57 by bago
2008-09-19 01:50:59
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Fun game. Put in the word "think" every time Sarah Palin says "blink".


Palin, expressing confidence in her readiness, said, “You can’t think.” So -- “I didn’t.”
 
Gibson pressed her, “And you didn't say to yourself, ‘Am I experienced enough? Am I ready? Do I know enough about international affairs? Do I -- will I feel comfortable enough on the national stage to do this?’”
 
“I didn't hesitate, no,” Palin responded.
 
“Didn't that take some hubris?” Gibson asked.
 
“I answered him yes because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can't think, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we're on -- reform of this country and victory in the war -- you can't think. So I didn't think then, even when asked to run as his running mate.”


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#58 by G-Man
2008-09-19 01:51:57
FoRmaT: I didn't post my snarky comment to highlight what a lazy worthless welfare-loving stay at home father you are. I actually meant to point out that the socialized medicine you enjoy in countries like Spain and Germany make it more expensive for employers to operate, and that therefore, they employ less people and/or pay lower wages. Hence your dificulty in finding work.

TreeFrog in #52 got it right. But misunderstandings aside, I'll try to remember that you are a real human being on the other end of the keyboard and avoid needlessly antagonizing you in the future.
#59 by Shadarr
2008-09-19 01:53:18
shadarr@gmail.com http://digital-luddite.com
Lies.

Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
#60 by LPMiller
2008-09-19 01:57:02
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
both systems have major downsides. Neither is hearts and flowers. And competition does not seem to make better hospitals, or create any kind of real price difference.

I dunno that we could ever do a system like canada or Britain - too many damn people. But we sure should be able to provide something that fills the holes.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" - "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."

"LP, your big balls are a religion." - Jibble
#61 by Shadarr
2008-09-19 02:12:27
shadarr@gmail.com http://digital-luddite.com
mgns (#56):
Health care is unbelievably expensive to provide. There is simply no way for the average working adult to pay for what we have come to believe is a decent standard of care in a private system.

lolwut? Whether it's through taxes or health insurance or taking out a second mortgage to pay for emergency surgery, it's the same collection of people paying for the healthcare system.  One of the benefits of a socialized system is that your payments are amortized over your entire life, so when you're young and healthy and working you are effectively banking money for when you're old and sickly and on a fixed income, something people don't generally do on their own (just look at defined benefit vs self-managed pension plans).

Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
#62 by CheesyPoof
2008-09-19 03:58:02
#38 by Dumdeedum
Woohoo, for the first time in weeks I'm all caught up on my 'crapping!  No more little yellow icons mocking me from the archive page.  It does look like I missed some Ng Yo fun though, which is a shame but I'll survive.

Okay, carry on.

Why, where were you? Hhhmmm? Were you WoW'ing? You were, weren't you? You filthy bastard. Admit it!

#46 by Jamie
Oh, Photobucket is blocked here at work. Great. Now the Eye of Sauron (AKA the IT Department) will turn its blazing gaze upon me.

Pffftt. Ever since they put up the blocking shit at work I'll get one or two innocuous things a day that are blocked. Yesterday it was google docs.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#63 by CheesyPoof
2008-09-19 04:01:37
#58 by G-Man
FoRmaT: I didn't post my snarky comment to highlight what a lazy worthless welfare-loving stay at home father you are. I actually meant to point out that the socialized medicine you enjoy in countries like Spain and Germany make it more expensive for employers to operate, and that therefore, they employ less people and/or pay lower wages. Hence your dificulty in finding work.

TreeFrog in #52 got it right. But misunderstandings aside, I'll try to remember that you are a real human being on the other end of the keyboard and avoid needlessly antagonizing you in the future.

That's as close to an apology that you're going to get, Format, so you better like it.

But I thought as TreeFrog did when reading it.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#64 by Matt Perkins
2008-09-19 04:56:04
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
That may be the most apology I've ever seen from G-Man....

"some of those words want to be other words." - LP
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum
#65 by None-1a
2008-09-19 09:19:42
#55 by BobJustBob
Didn't you see Sicko? The whole movie is about various people with health insurance who were screwed by the system.


ah but which part of the system screwed them? Most doctors and hospitals are trying their damnedest to provide high quality care whil insurance companies are trying their damnedest to not pay for it.

#60 by LPMiller
But we sure should be able to provide something that fills the holes.


Unfortunately that's what will happen, and filling the holes will have a whole new set of holes that'll make the system suck just as bad.

Don't forget garnishes such as: Fish shaped solid waste.
#66 by mgns
2008-09-19 10:47:54
lolwut? Whether it's through taxes or health insurance or taking out a second mortgage to pay for emergency surgery, it's the same collection of people paying for the healthcare system.  One of the benefits of a socialized system is that your payments are amortized over your entire life, so when you're young and healthy and working you are effectively banking money for when you're old and sickly and on a fixed income, something people don't generally do on their own (just look at defined benefit vs self-managed pension plans).

What do you mean lolwut? You explained it to yourself with the rest of the post. Also, in a socialised healthcare system, insurance companies do not add to the cost.

I dunno that we could ever do a system like canada or Britain - too many damn people.

The ratio of sick people to taxpayers should be the same, so why not?

A fist bump? A pound? A terrorist fist jab?
#67 by FoRmaT
2008-09-19 11:43:08
Thank you G-Man.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#68 by None-1a
2008-09-19 12:34:09
mgns it's not the amount of money that's the problem, it's keeping enough doctors to see all the people and makeing sure they're truely where they need to be. We already have a UK like public care system with VA hospitals which wastes a fuck ton of money just trying to keep access resonable (for example the local VA hospital doesn't see enough traffic to warrent inpatient services but it's staying open simply because traveling to another location for it would be unreasonable).

Even Canada public insurance system has problems with wait times for care, long waits for test results or noncritical surgery, and finding a doctor in the middle of no where. The only time waiting is a problem in the US is with the ER which tend to see more people simply becuase they can never refuse care. Granted we're starting to see the same problems popup now that most private insurance uses some form of managed care.

Don't forget garnishes such as: Fish shaped solid waste.
#69 by FoRmaT
2008-09-19 13:28:34
I can't imagine living in a system without public healthcare. How does that even work? What happens if I get cancer and need treatment? Am I fucked if I have no money? That's just not right. Especially not in a country as rich as the US.

In Spain, healthcare isn't even mentioned when you sign up to work. You get that even with minimum wage jobs. They'll say "you'll earn 1000€", but on top of that the business pays your social security, which is something like 180-250€ or so, IIRC.

Whenever you stop working, you are covered by national healthcare for the next six months. If you don't have any income, you basically sign a few forms and then you'll get healthcare for free.

But it's not really working so well, at least in Tenerife, which I hear is some kind of worst case scenario in Spain. The south of the island has no public hospital, only privately oned ones, plus national health centres, where you can go to a doctor and get a diagnose or simple treatments that don't involve hospitalisation. When you have to go to a hospital, you have to go the other end of the island, and that place is as busy as a bee hive, because there are so many people going to just this one place.

And there are more and more people coming all the time, as the Canaries have been target for huge amounts of latin and morrocan inmigration for over a decade, but the government doesn't get off their asses. Canaries were sponsored by Brussels for a long long time, with the EU paying for huge projects that in the end never get realised, like big wide roads with hundreds of lamp posts, in the middle of nowhere that don't lead anywhere because when the road was finished, the project was halted. Millions of Euros wasted. Spain, two or three years ago, said that they were writing black numbers and had a superabit and economical growth stronger than even Germany, but still people were only getting paid 700-900€ wages for 48 or more of weeky work. Maybe it's because your typical inmigrant from latin America or morocco will "do anything for any price" and that has contributed largely to ruin the wages. At least there is still a minimum wage, of about 600€ or so. And I had about 9% tax retentions, and if you earn less than 11k € per year, you don't have to declare for taxes. You can, though, and maybe get something back.

Btw, because of THE CRISIS, public employment in Spain has been reduced by 70%. So, all the time your population increases, but you have no schools, hospitals, courts etc. to keep up. What they do have is an insane amount of police. Really, in Tenerife police seem to grow on trees or something because you can't walk or drive two minutes without seeing the cops. And they'll do traffic controls everywhere, everyday, to keep the money from all those fines for not having insurance or your MOT done coming in. That's all they seem to do.

A private insurance, in Spain, for a ~30 year old man is about 700€ per year, and for a ~30 year old woman is about 1000€. You can have a cheaper insurance, where you can't chose where you get treated, and you can also have a more expensive one where you could chose to get treatment from a specialist in the US.

Germany doesn't have minimum wages. Here you have what they call "minijobs" where you work for, say 9 hrs. a week and earn 400€ monthly, and the the employer has to pay very little for employing you and you get no healthcare from that job, but can get it by applying for it at the social office. They are doing that instead of normal part time jobs, which are becoming a thing of the past.


Sorry for my unstructured rant.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#70 by gaggle
2008-09-19 14:30:15
#69 by FoRmaT
Am I fucked if I have no money? That's just not right.

I'll go off on a tangent now.


I always find myself slightly stumbling at this argument. I don't disagree mind you, that's not what I'm saying, I just like to… ponder the implications. I think because it's such a vast disregard of how nature works everywhere else. It's interesting we do that.

"Braid breaks one of my personal most fundamental rules of games design within minutes of starting - they have timed puzzles."
#71 by FoRmaT
2008-09-19 14:36:40
Gaggle, I think it's one thing to say "I have the right to own X, my government should pay for it", and a whole other thing to say "I have a disease and need help". Whatever happened to the Hippocratic Oath?

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#72 by FoRmaT
2008-09-19 14:43:10
And, why is it fair that people without recourses get legal aid but no medical aid? Lawyers want to make money, too...

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
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