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Would you get cybernetic implants?
July 6th 2006, 00:37 CEST by OwenButler

Would you get cybernetic implants?

To what lengths would you augment yourself with readily available cybernetic implants?

Assume cybernetic implants were affordable, painless and invisible.

Would you get an eye implant that showed you the correct time for the time zone you are in, in a HUD?

Would you get an eye implant that showed a todo list of tasks in your vision which you could create/checkoff using your brain?

Would you get an implant that enhanced your vision or hearing?

Would you get an implant to correct a chemical imbalance in your brain?

Would you get an implant to override your muscle control to drive for you?

Reading Peter F Hamilton's Nights Dawn Trilogy got me to thinking: "How amazing would it be to have cybernetic implants?"

Assuming you could do anything, how far would you go with augmenting your body with computers/technology?  If you have a limit, what is it?  Furthermore, why is that the limit?
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#45 by Shadarr
2006-07-06 06:35:39
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
Needs more letters.

#46 by mgns
2006-07-06 07:42:40
schnee,

I'm thinking of buying one. But, the glossy screen, the runnning hot thing..? Can we get an amen?

Cold silence has a tendency to atrophy any
Sense of compassion
Between supposed lovers
#47 by bago
2006-07-06 07:44:20
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
I'd willingly be your first gen gargoyle. Sure it might not work exactly as advertised, but I'm used to working with pre-release software. That's my job.

We need to keep our arms open, our head up, smiles big and our middle fingers raised.
#48 by m0nty
2006-07-06 07:53:45
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Wudi (#19):
my bionic pecker.

So you're saying you're unhappy with your current pecker? Aww, no wonder the 101st always made you the mommy.
#49 by Ashiran
2006-07-06 08:51:26
I would not get a single cybernetic implant that isn't just a prothesis. Nor would I ever jack a plug into my brain. Cybernetic enhancements are pointless and direct plugs to computersystems the first step to the end of the human race.

Not that I see it happen with peak oil and all.

This will not be the end of it.
#50 by BobJustBob
2006-07-06 08:55:55
The sooner the human race is ended, the better.

"That probably entirely useless path, that probably lost day, that probably futile hope. What's the point of it all?" - Franz Kafka, The Castle
#51 by lwf
2006-07-06 08:59:37
yep

I'm the hammer you're the peach.
#52 by McBain
2006-07-06 09:09:31
I'm with Ashiran.  I'd never get cybernetic implants and the human race will be in Mad Max mode long before we get to that level of technology.

Blacker than the last banana.
#53 by gaggle
2006-07-06 09:54:02
I'd be hugely curious about any cybernetic implants on the market. I'd also be so very careful about what Hugin speaks of, that first-generation hardware is buggy at best.

But if that's dealt with, like you may say laser eye surgery today is reasonably safe, then I'd be up for a lot I imagine. Fast easy access to information when you want? Sure. Todo lists, telephone, everything like that sounds marvelous. I've never thought about the superstrength stuff, I guess I don't have that wish.. eh, you know sure, it sounds good. I guess. Not sure what the point would be.
 

The author Peter F. Hamilton has some pretty cool ideas for man/machine interfaces, his Commonwealth Saga in particular contains a jolly look at where it could all end up. Though in that world it's probably their effective immortality that draws me the most. Fuck implants and fuck every other improvements to humans, please fix it so we don't die kthnx.

"[The internet is] not a truck. It's a series of tubes."
#54 by Squeaky
2006-07-06 09:56:00
If it were perfectly safe and bug free and hacker proof (har!) I'd augment everything I could (assuming money weren't an issue).

#55 by Shadarr
2006-07-06 10:04:54
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I wouldn't want super strength for me, but I look forward to the mutant vs cyborg Olympics.

#56 by Gunp01nt
2006-07-06 10:04:58
supersimon33@hotmail.com
Would you get an eye implant that showed you the correct time for the time zone you are in, in a HUD?


No, but throw in a built-in camera, infrared vision, improved depth perception (I can't see depth), eye-RSI prevention and Friend-or-foe identification and we can talk about it.

After I learned of my [Dutch] heritage the rate at which I pushed passerbys off of bridges shot up significantly.
 - Penguinx
#57 by Gunp01nt
2006-07-06 10:09:12
supersimon33@hotmail.com
There has to be a significant value to an implant before I'll get one. It has to provide something that can't be provided otherwise in a much cheaper, easier fashion. The watch and todo list implants are stupid examples, since they sound like what stupid early adopters would get in the early development phase of implants, just so they can say they have them. Projecting stuff onto your eyeball isn't really an advantage in itself.

After I learned of my [Dutch] heritage the rate at which I pushed passerbys off of bridges shot up significantly.
 - Penguinx
#58 by gaggle
2006-07-06 10:19:36
You.. can't see depth?

"[The internet is] not a truck. It's a series of tubes."
#59 by Ashiran
2006-07-06 10:23:33
I'm sure enchanced hearing and sight would vastly improve your life as it is now. Oh wait, most people sit behind a computer screen all day listening to crappy radio stations.

Getting stuff you don't need just because it's "better" is stupid and wastefull. Not to mention that something like enchanced hearing would probably leave people clutching their ears while they beg for the sounds to stop.

This will not be the end of it.
#60 by Shadarr
2006-07-06 10:33:39
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I have better than average hearing.  It has very few real-life applications.

#61 by Gunp01nt
2006-07-06 10:35:48
supersimon33@hotmail.com
gaggle:
You.. can't see depth?


I should say I can't perceive depth. It's not like depth renders as black for me.

Something with poor coordination between my two eyes (which is how depth perception works). Made baseball in high school a hoot.

After I learned of my [Dutch] heritage the rate at which I pushed passerbys off of bridges shot up significantly.
 - Penguinx
#62 by Qmanol
2006-07-06 10:48:02
I have the same problem. No depth perception. It sucks.

It isn't a Fallout game unless I use my pickpocketing skill to place a ticking dynamite bomb into the pockets of an 8 year old boy.
#63 by anaqer
2006-07-06 11:05:10
Aww, no wonder the 82nd always made you the mommy.

Get it right!

zzz
#64 by OwenButler
2006-07-06 11:58:25
http://blog.owenbutler.org/
Even worse than the buggy first gen implants, imagine if we have our current format wars.  HDDVD vs Blu Ray etc.

You know, I go over to bobs place, but I can't remote control his dishwasher and tv with my brainplug(tm) because he's running macos.  There's a great open standard for implant communication, so microsoft extends it with "improvements" and tries to lock out the market.

Good times, good times.
#65 by anaqer
2006-07-06 12:39:55
Did you just call Bob gay?

zzz
#66 by OwenButler
2006-07-06 12:41:42
http://blog.owenbutler.org/
No.
#67 by Warren Marshall
2006-07-06 13:13:42
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
WHile all you are gazing at and listening to the hot chicks from afar with your Bionic Eyes And Ears, I'll be banging them with my bionic pecker.

Some of us just don't need augmentation in that area.

Jesus Christ, that is unbelievably retarded! - lwf
#68 by Warren Marshall
2006-07-06 13:15:38
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
The sooner the human race is ended, the better.


yep

You know, you two COULD be leading by example...

Jesus Christ, that is unbelievably retarded! - lwf
#69 by lwf
2006-07-06 13:26:35
I think he meant it in a different way than I did.

I'm the hammer you're the peach.
#70 by OwenButler
2006-07-06 13:42:06
http://blog.owenbutler.org/
#47 by bago
I'd willingly be your first gen gargoyle. Sure it might not work exactly as advertised, but I'm used to working with pre-release software. That's my job.

Oh really, you work in software?  Why didn't you tell us sooner?
#71 by Penguinx
2006-07-06 14:52:46
I'd sign up for the first gen stuff. Life's too long anyway.

#72 by bago
2006-07-06 16:00:26
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Like I said, I'd be more than willing to find the first gen bugs. The sheer coolness would easily outweigh the inconveniences of adding data to my everyday life.

We need to keep our arms open, our head up, smiles big and our middle fingers raised.
#73 by Ashiran
2006-07-06 16:04:57
Haven't you learned anything from Deus Ex with regard to first gen cybernetics?

This will not be the end of it.
#74 by bago
2006-07-06 16:10:23
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
It's hard to be worse than my eyebrow one.

We need to keep our arms open, our head up, smiles big and our middle fingers raised.
#75 by Caryn
2006-07-06 16:11:23
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
You know, I go over to bobs place, but I can't remote control his dishwasher and tv with my brainplug(tm) because he's running macos.

I don't know why this reminded me of this almost unrelated story, but a friend of mine who has a 2 year old daughter sat down on her couch the other day and picked up her remote and tried to turn on the television. Instead, she heard a muffled dinosaur roar. Confused and vaguely worried about her sanity, she did it again, wondering what the fuck the noise was. Finally she sat up and took the couch cushions off to find her daughter's remote-controlled dinsosaur toy. Apparently the TV remote also controlled the dinosaur, but she hadn't known that. The story made me laugh.

Current novel word count: 18,000 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)
#76 by Caryn
2006-07-06 16:12:01
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
You have a cybernetic eyebrow?

Current novel word count: 18,000 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)
#77 by Jibble
2006-07-06 16:13:10
I'm willing to bet that story is funnier than the entirety of the movie "Click". I'm not willing, however, to test that theory out.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 217 lbs.  37 to go.
#78 by Penguinx
2006-07-06 16:17:03
On July 8th, 2006 at UFC 61, Ken became the first fighter to ever die in the Octagon ring. About 30 seconds in the second round Tito Ortiz put Ken in a rear naked choke. Ken's pride got the best of him. He refused to tap out and suffered complete blockage of the airway which led to asphyxia. Big John McCarthy immediately pushed Tito off of Ken. The doctors attempted to revive Ken but later determined his life and career are both dead. Tito then spit on Ken's face and commented on Ken having the super aids virus. Fans booed Tito for his poor sportsmanship.


BEST. FAKE. Wikipedia entry. EVER.

#79 by bago
2006-07-06 16:17:32
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
No Shoryuken? Lame.

We need to keep our arms open, our head up, smiles big and our middle fingers raised.
#80 by bago
2006-07-06 16:19:18
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Also: Should have trained with nitrous.

We need to keep our arms open, our head up, smiles big and our middle fingers raised.
#81 by Funkdrunk
2006-07-06 16:33:53
jflavius@bellatlantic.net
Px

My eyes bulged out of my head, until I saw you noted this as fake.

Funk.

I am sofa king.  We todd ed.
#82 by bago
2006-07-06 16:34:30
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Get your ass to mars.

We need to keep our arms open, our head up, smiles big and our middle fingers raised.
#83 by Penguinx
2006-07-06 16:40:40
Same here, Funk. When I first started to read it, I didn't notice the date in teh futare.

#84 by Shadarr
2006-07-06 17:51:49
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I'd sign up for the first gen stuff. Life's too long anyway.

Yours won't be unless you get that BMI down.

#85 by Jibble
2006-07-06 18:02:24
I can't wait til Penguin gets his first implant so I can hack it and use him to do my bidding. I'm going to have the best garden ever.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 217 lbs.  37 to go.
#86 by bago
2006-07-06 18:03:50
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Why would you hack it if he's just going to blog it on PC anyways?

We need to keep our arms open, our head up, smiles big and our middle fingers raised.
#87 by bago
2006-07-06 18:19:41
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Creepy story about totally missing the point.

This is my preferred take.

We need to keep our arms open, our head up, smiles big and our middle fingers raised.
#88 by Greg
2006-07-06 18:20:09
Liberty is such a butch.

こんにちは
#89 by schnee
2006-07-06 19:40:51
david@snowdesign.com
I'm thinking of buying one. But, the glossy screen, the runnning hot thing..? Can we get an amen?

Glossy screen... I feel wrong saying this but.. I kinda like it. I see reflections, but they aren't bad, and the screen is still easier to read than the matte finish in bright environments. I'm not doing color critical work on it.

Heat issues... yeah, it runs hot, but the Powerbook G4 ran hotter. Also, Apple always goes for 'quiet and hot' over 'cool and loud'. It's a drawback, but not a deal-breaker.

It's durable and portable, though. Seems much less delicate and fussy than the old Powerbook.

#90 by Penguinx
2006-07-06 20:19:40
My XP laptop has a glossy screen and I dig it.

#91 by jjohnsen
2006-07-06 22:18:05
http://www.johnsenclan.com
My iBook is hotter than Hades.  I'd love a Macbook, but the first couple of versions of new Apple products make me nervous.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP
#92 by Jibble
2006-07-06 22:27:37
I would indeed say that your Macintosh computer is flaming.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 217 lbs.  37 to go.
#93 by schnee
2006-07-06 23:19:32
david@snowdesign.com
Oh thtop it!

#94 by Penguinx
2006-07-06 23:24:56
I fucked a man in the ass while I placed my order. It just seemed right. Plus, you know, you get the secret, gay Apple discount.

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